How do we nurture the conditions for humans to care about the more than human world?

Listen to Tim Collings' as he speaks with AELA's National Convenor, Dr Michelle Maloney, in his podcast series, "Better World Leaders":

Better World Leaders shares experiences, journeys and insights with leaders who are making our world better.

Each episode we explore their stories, what they have learnt through their lives and careers and what they are doing to contribute to making our world better. From these conversations we can all learn from their example and experience to improve ourselves and enhance how we as leaders can make the world better for all.